An interview with Kyrylo Budanov, Ukraine’s spymaster

WE SIT DOWN with Kyrylo Budanov, Ukraine’s youngest-ever spymaster. He is intense, resolute—and oddly charismatic. A world of electrified transport is going to need lots of nickel for batteries. We argue that, environmentally speaking, gathering it from the seafloor clearly beats mining it on land (11:12). And remembering Donald Triplett, the first person ever to be diagnosed with autism (19:25). Runtime: 27 minListen on: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google | TuneInAdditional audio courtesy of “In A Different Key”, inadifferentkeythemovie.comFor full access to print, digital and audio editions of The Economist, try a free 30-day digital subscription by going to www.economist.com/intelligenceoffer

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An interview with Kyrylo Budanov, Ukraine’s spymaster

WE SIT DOWN with Kyrylo Budanov, Ukraine’s youngest-ever spymaster. He is intense, resolute—and oddly charismatic. A world of electrified transport is going to need lots of nickel for batteries. We argue that, environmentally speaking, gathering it from the seafloor clearly beats mining it on land (11:12). And remembering Donald Triplett, the first person ever to be diagnosed with autism (19:25). Runtime: 27 min

Listen on: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Google | TuneIn

Additional audio courtesy of “In A Different Key”, inadifferentkeythemovie.com

For full access to print, digital and audio editions of The Economist, try a free 30-day digital subscription by going to www.economist.com/intelligenceoffer

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